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Is Reflation Policy Bullish for Gold? Unlikely

November 15th, 2009 Brian Leave a comment Go to comments

There is a simple fact that all Goldbugs miss: and that is the American economy, and most all others in the world, have just experienced a massive asset DEFLATION (still underway in some segments like commercial real estate). This deflation in America was about $15T over the past two years according to New York University's Nouriel (from $40T to $25T). That asset deflation was completely psychological. One day American assets of all types were worth one value in dollars and just a little bit later, were worth quite a bit less. There was no massive physical destruction of assets as in a war (counter to the weak Weimar argument for hyperinfaltion), only economic.

The basis for my opinions on monetary reflation are derived from Hyman Minsky's work. PIMCO's has written on "The Minsky Solution" many times the past two years. In early January, I featured one of McCulley's articles in a post: http://wealth-ed.com/2009/01/reflation-economics-or-the-minsky-solution/

To deflate assets requires the value of the currency those assets are denominated in to increase as the quantity decreases (this might be counterintuivitive for most). In essence, $15T of dollars were destroyed or disappeared (not physically, but notionally with debt paper markdowns). Less dollar supply at a given demand = higher price / value. Central bankers everywhere understand this dynamic. So, in a coordinated way to restore stability to global assets, currencies are being expanded to replace those notionally destroyed through markdowns during 2008 (the paper that underpinned all those assets, CDOs, RMBS, etc).

The most intelligent dissertation I have seen on repairing a deflation was printed in last February. Ray Dalio, a rare contributor, was interviewed. I reference this interview on this blog: http://wealth-ed.com/2009/02/fixing-a-deflation-a-most-intelligent-analysis/

To recap what Dalio said, then, and most presciently: this CB driven monetary expansion is NOT inflationary to the extent that aggregate asset values are being returned to 2007 levels. "How can this be?", say all the skeptics at this point.  My answer: by definition, the reduction of the value of $40T national assets to $25T assets is DEFLATIONARY. In America, $15T of the global reserve "currency" (almost all of it electronic bookkeeping and not "paper") can be created to replace the "paper" that was lost in 2008, with mostly positive effects. There is no deleterious effect so long as the re-creation of the lost currency is done slowly enough as to not be disruptive to global currency flows (currency destruction in 2008 was disruptive enough, don't we all agree?)

$80 and $3 copper is probably in the area of "fair value" vs. the dollar given a mid 2007 USD reference. But $1100 Gold? Unlikely. Gold is now trading on speculative fear of inflation, not the reality of inflation itself. So far, the dollar has not even been expanded (reflated) sufficiently to move asset values back to mid-2007 (check local house prices). Monetary expansion is definitely not inflationary, in America, at this point in time. For gold to be worth $1100, let alone $1500, then global central banks must be unable to stop the expansion that has started in an effort to stabilize asset values. Maybe that is a reasonable speculation, and maybe not (and I own a prudent number of gold shares as a hedge, just in case it is). But like many others, as a more significant inflation hedge, I would rather take my chances with commodities that have fundamental industrial value, and not merely the psychic value of gold.  As is pointed out, gold is worth nothing unto itself. And worse, gold is not consumed, so supply forever increases. This ever-increasing supply dynamic is NOT the hallmark of a good investment.

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Categories: Economics, Forecast
  1. November 23rd, 2009 at 19:28 | #1

    Yes, there’s no inflation. Meanwhile health care and education costs are up several hundred percent in the past decade.

    Any idea what is driving the new records in gold prices?

  2. November 24th, 2009 at 20:40 | #2

    Always good to hear from you Nirav…

    You have made the point about education and healthcare inflation in the past, and they certainly are for real. But they are offset by reductions in price for almost everything else, including energy the past few months. The fact of low inflation or even deflation is in the interest rate environment. Sure, the Fed is helping suppress interest rates. But if there were truly inflation due to excess demand for a given supply, the effort would not be successful.

    But the fact is, there is low demand for every commodity, including money. People have stopped borrowing and lending. Money is still more or less frozen. Until money and the economy thaw, there will be no inflation. This means that gold prices are creating a bubble with nothing but speculation on potential future inflation to hold it up. If that inflation does not materialize due to a rapidly growing economy, the bubble will collapse as they always do.

    Did you have a chance to read Bill Gross’ December note at the PIMCO site? He makes the case for low interest rates and low demand even better than I can.

  3. Matt
    December 11th, 2009 at 08:34 | #3

    Nirav.

    Healthcare and education costs are inflated because of the unique government treatment of those industries – not because of the value of the dollar.

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